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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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Mohammed was a child molesting cunt
2008-05-03 23:39:16 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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‹(•¿•)› Shoot shitskin muhammadans in the face
2008-05-05 05:09:26 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


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Ramabriga
2008-05-06 03:28:37 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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information
about the different aspects of Jewish culture. It is an appalling
culture where Jesus is the bastard and wicked sorcerer and it is
permitted to have intercourse with a three year old and it is the
objective of a Jew to kill gentiles and more.

Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud


Where a Jew Should Do Evil
Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a
city
where he is not known and do the evil there.
Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis
Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be
punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.
Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be
killed.


O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages
owed
him for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite
there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an
Israelite...the payment is to be in full."


Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile
("heathen")
it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to
an
old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article
to
a Cuthean..."


Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will
be
no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law
and
God has "exposed their money to Israel."


Jews May Lie to Non-Jews
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a
Gentile.
Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from
birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.


Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the
descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with
carpenters."
Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is
stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that
Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.


Gloats over Christ Dying Young
A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus
died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is
not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men
shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-
three
or thirty-four years old."


Jesus in the Talmud:
Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ
While it is the standard disinformation practice of apologists for
the
Talmud to deny that it contains any scurrilous references to Jesus
Christ, certain Orthodox Jewish organizations are more forthcoming
and
admit that the Talmud not only mentions Jesus but disparages him (as
a
sorcerer and a demented sex freak). These orthodox Jewish
organizations
make this admission perhaps out of the belief that Jewish supremacy
is
so well-established in the modern world that they need not concern
themselves with adverse reactions.
For example, on the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch
group--one of the largest in the world--we find the following
statement,
complete with Talmudic citations:
"The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the
Nazarene':
1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews
astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers
for
the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is
mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness,
and
refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used
procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly
banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
End quote from http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (Lubavitch website)
June
20, 2000.
[Note: we have printed and preserved in our files a hard copy of this
statement from the Lubavitch"Noah's Covenant Website," as it appeared
on
their website at http://www.noahide.com on June 20, 2000, in the
event
that denials are later issued and the statement itself suppressed].
Let us examine further some of these anti-Christ Talmud passages:
Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."
Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu
"the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is
taught
that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before
this
the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he
has
practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an
enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone."
Kallah 51a."The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young
lads
passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of
him
who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard.
Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child
conceived
during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both
a
bastard and a son of a niddah.
"They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your
colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to
the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.
"He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will
put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life).
She
said to him, 'Swear it to me.'
"Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his
heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied,
'When
I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my
husband
kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this
son
was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard and the
son
of a niddah.
"It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His
Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."
In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding
Talmud discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who
"uncovered his head" and was conceived in the filth of menstruation).
The boy's adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of
Christ, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the
hairdresser, in the Talmud).
"The Editio Princeps of the complete Code of Talmudic Law,
Maimonides'
Mishneh Torah -- replete not only with the most offensive precepts
against all Gentiles but also with explicit attacks on Christianity
and
on Jesus (after whose name the author adds piously, 'May the name of
the
wicked perish')... --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish
Religion,
p. 21.
"The Talmud contains a few explicit references to Jesus...These
references are certainly not complimentary...There seems little doubt
that the account of the execution of Jesus on the eve of Passover
does
refer to the Christian Jesus...The passage in which Jesus' punishment
in
hell is described also seems to refer to the Christian Jesus. It is a
piece of anti-Christian polemic dating from the post-70 CE period..."
--Hyam Maccoby, Judaism on Trial, pp. 26-27.
"According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical
court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of
rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his
execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the
talmudic
account the Romans are not even mentioned.
"The more popular accounts--which were nevertheless taken quite
seriously--such as the notorious Toldot Yeshu are even worse, for in
addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very
name 'Jesus' was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable and this
popular tradition still persists...
"The Hebrew form of the name Jesus--Yeshu--was interpreted as an
acronym
for the curse, 'may his name and memory be wiped out,' which is used
as
an extreme form of abuse. In fact, anti-zionist Orthodox Jews (such
as
Neturey Qarta) sometimes refer to Herzl as 'Herzl Jesus' and I have
found in religious zionist writings expressions such as "Nasser
Jesus"
and more recently 'Arafat Jesus." --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish
History,
Jewish Religion, pp. 97- 98, 118.
Talmud Attacks Christians and Christian Books
Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the
Talmud
will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.
Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books")
will have no portion in the world to come.
Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e.
the
New Testament.
Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis
burned
hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23,
1980
(cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud
Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies
within
the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.
Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a
holy
way is given.
Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the
animals in the Garden of Eden.
Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically,
three years "and a day" old).
Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child
is
less than nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little
girl
it is nothing."
Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to
marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also
eligible
to marry a Jewish priest.
Abodah Zarah 17a. ...

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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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Mohammed was a child molesting cunt
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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Ramabriga
2008-05-05 23:41:02 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


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Aviroce
2008-05-05 03:24:00 UTC
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B. H. Cramer (***@them'oment.bizz) posted the following
information
about the different aspects of Jewish culture. It is an appalling
culture where Jesus is the bastard and wicked sorcerer and it is
permitted to have intercourse with a three year old and it is the
objective of a Jew to kill gentiles and more.

Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud


Where a Jew Should Do Evil
Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a
city
where he is not known and do the evil there.
Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis
Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be
punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.
Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be
killed.


O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages
owed
him for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite
there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an
Israelite...the payment is to be in full."


Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile
("heathen")
it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to
an
old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article
to
a Cuthean..."


Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will
be
no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law
and
God has "exposed their money to Israel."


Jews May Lie to Non-Jews
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a
Gentile.
Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from
birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.


Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the
descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with
carpenters."
Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is
stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that
Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.


Gloats over Christ Dying Young
A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus
died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is
not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men
shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-
three
or thirty-four years old."


Jesus in the Talmud:
Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ
While it is the standard disinformation practice of apologists for
the
Talmud to deny that it contains any scurrilous references to Jesus
Christ, certain Orthodox Jewish organizations are more forthcoming
and
admit that the Talmud not only mentions Jesus but disparages him (as
a
sorcerer and a demented sex freak). These orthodox Jewish
organizations
make this admission perhaps out of the belief that Jewish supremacy
is
so well-established in the modern world that they need not concern
themselves with adverse reactions.
For example, on the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch
group--one of the largest in the world--we find the following
statement,
complete with Talmudic citations:
"The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the
Nazarene':
1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews
astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers
for
the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is
mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness,
and
refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used
procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly
banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
End quote from http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (Lubavitch website)
June
20, 2000.
[Note: we have printed and preserved in our files a hard copy of this
statement from the Lubavitch"Noah's Covenant Website," as it appeared
on
their website at http://www.noahide.com on June 20, 2000, in the
event
that denials are later issued and the statement itself suppressed].
Let us examine further some of these anti-Christ Talmud passages:
Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."
Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu
"the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is
taught
that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before
this
the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he
has
practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an
enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone."
Kallah 51a."The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young
lads
passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of
him
who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard.
Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child
conceived
during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both
a
bastard and a son of a niddah.
"They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your
colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to
the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.
"He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will
put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life).
She
said to him, 'Swear it to me.'
"Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his
heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied,
'When
I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my
husband
kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this
son
was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard and the
son
of a niddah.
"It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His
Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."
In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding
Talmud discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who
"uncovered his head" and was conceived in the filth of menstruation).
The boy's adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of
Christ, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the
hairdresser, in the Talmud).
"The Editio Princeps of the complete Code of Talmudic Law,
Maimonides'
Mishneh Torah -- replete not only with the most offensive precepts
against all Gentiles but also with explicit attacks on Christianity
and
on Jesus (after whose name the author adds piously, 'May the name of
the
wicked perish')... --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish
Religion,
p. 21.
"The Talmud contains a few explicit references to Jesus...These
references are certainly not complimentary...There seems little doubt
that the account of the execution of Jesus on the eve of Passover
does
refer to the Christian Jesus...The passage in which Jesus' punishment
in
hell is described also seems to refer to the Christian Jesus. It is a
piece of anti-Christian polemic dating from the post-70 CE period..."
--Hyam Maccoby, Judaism on Trial, pp. 26-27.
"According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical
court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of
rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his
execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the
talmudic
account the Romans are not even mentioned.
"The more popular accounts--which were nevertheless taken quite
seriously--such as the notorious Toldot Yeshu are even worse, for in
addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very
name 'Jesus' was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable and this
popular tradition still persists...
"The Hebrew form of the name Jesus--Yeshu--was interpreted as an
acronym
for the curse, 'may his name and memory be wiped out,' which is used
as
an extreme form of abuse. In fact, anti-zionist Orthodox Jews (such
as
Neturey Qarta) sometimes refer to Herzl as 'Herzl Jesus' and I have
found in religious zionist writings expressions such as "Nasser
Jesus"
and more recently 'Arafat Jesus." --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish
History,
Jewish Religion, pp. 97- 98, 118.
Talmud Attacks Christians and Christian Books
Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the
Talmud
will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.
Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books")
will have no portion in the world to come.
Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e.
the
New Testament.
Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis
burned
hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23,
1980
(cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud
Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies
within
the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.
Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a
holy
way is given.
Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the
animals in the Garden of Eden.
Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically,
three years "and a day" old).
Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child
is
less than nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little
girl
it is nothing."
Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to
marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also
eligible
to marry a Jewish priest.
Abodah Zarah 17a. ...

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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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2008-05-06 09:50:47 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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Gunny Khan
2008-05-05 10:03:26 UTC
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he role of iron in sea water to store carbon dioxide

The 2004 EIFEX experiment reported a carbon dioxide to iron
fixation ratio of nearly 300,000 to 1.

Advocates say that using this technique to restore ocean plankton to
recent known levels of health would help solve half the climate change
problem, revive major fisheries and cetacean populations, and
alleviate several other urgent ocean crises

About 70% of the world's surface is covered in oceans, and the upper
part of these (where light can penetrate) is inhabited by algae. In
some oceans, the growth and/or reproduction of these algae is limited
by the amount of iron in the seawater. Iron is a vital micronutrient
for phytoplankton growth and photosynthesis that has historically been
delivered to the pelagic sea by wind-driven dust storms from arid
lands. This Aeolian dust contains 3~5% iron and its deposition has
fallen nearly 25% in recent decades[16] due to modern changes in land
use and agricultural practices as well as increased greening of dry
regions thanks to increasing levels of atmospheric CO2. (Arid zone
grasses and vegetation now lose less water vapor through their stomata
to absorb the same amount of carbon dioxide, and thus stay greener
longer, reducing dust storm frequency and the amount of iron reaching
the deep seas. Increasing sand desertification does little to
compensate for this shortfall since sand is primarily silica with
relatively low iron content.)

The Redfield ratio describes the relative atomic concentrations of
critical nutrients in plankton biomass and is conventionally written
"106 C: 16 N: 1 P." This expresses the fact that one atom of
phosphorus and 16 of nitrogen are required to "fix" 106 carbon atoms
(or 106 molecules of CO2). Recent research has expanded this constant
to "106 C: 16 N: 1 P: .001 Fe" signifying that in iron deficient
conditions each atom of iron can fix 106,000 atoms of carbon[17], or
on a mass basis, each kilogram of iron can fix 83,000 kg of carbon
dioxide. The 2004 EIFEX experiment reported a carbon dioxide to iron
fixation ratio of nearly 300,000 to 1. Assuming that data is on a mass
basis, then the normalized atomic ratio would be approximately:
"380,000 C: 58,000 N: 3,600 P: 1 Fe".

In "desolate" HNLC zones, therefore, small amounts of iron (measured
by mass parts per trillion) delivered either by the wind or a planned
restoration program can trigger large responsive phytoplankton blooms.
Recent marine trials suggest that one kilogram of fine iron particles
may generate well over 100,000 kilograms of plankton biomass. The size
of the iron particles is critical, however, and particles of 0.5~1
micrometre or less seem to be ideal both in terms of sink rate and
bioavailability. Particles this small are not only easier for
cyanobacteria and other phytoplankton to incorporate, the churning of
surface waters keeps them in the euphotic or sunlit biologically
active depths without sinking for long periods of time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_fertilization
Ramabriga
2008-05-06 10:07:24 UTC
Permalink
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1208870505155&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up
everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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***@googlegroups.com
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***@mweb.co.za
***@lantic.co.za
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sanha-***@sanha.org.za
sanha-***@sanha.org.za
***@sanha.org.za
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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \

Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!

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This is confirmation of yet another shitskin moslems post cancelled by the Yakoo Warrior!! - take a look at the email addy to see which shitskin's post was canceled.
2008-05-06 10:07:30 UTC
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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1208870505155&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up
everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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***@mweb.co.za
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sanha-***@sanha.org.za
sanha-***@sanha.org.za
***@sanha.org.za
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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


_
/'_/)
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/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
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\ /
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\ (
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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!

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Charlie.Sadadeen
2008-05-05 10:30:26 UTC
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Why im not a christian or a jew

Q fever

sir Frank Macfarlane Burnet , the man who planned to kill off Asians
with disease and destroy their foods crops sure was a very busy boy
food

As was his mate Sir Markus Oliphant

if they were muslims or asians they would both have been hung as
terrorists

nobel prize http://nobelprizes.com/nobel/medicine/1960a.html

first australian of the year
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Macfarlane_Burnet
List of Australian of the Year Award recipients
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The following is a list of the recipients of the Australian of the
Year award.[1]
Year of award Name Life Comments
1960 Sir Frank Macfarlane Burnet OM AK KBE 1899-1985
virologist;
1960 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine

bio terrorist ?? that should have been hung as a terrorist , thats
why christians honored him with so many awards

Burnet's solution: The plan to poison S-E Asia

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/03/09/1015365752044.html

By Brendan Nicholson
Poltical Correspondent
March 10 2002

World-famous microbiologist Sir Macfarlane Burnet, the Nobel prize
winner revered as Australia's greatest medical research scientist,
secretly urged the government to develop biological weapons for use
against Indonesia and other "overpopulated" countries of South-East
Asia.

The revelation is contained in top-secret files declassified by the
National Archives of Australia, despite resistance from the Department
of Foreign Affairs and Trade.

Q fever is a disease caused by infection with Coxiella burnetii, [ in
his honor ] a bacterium that affects both humans and animals.

This organism is uncommon but may be found in cattle, sheep, goats
and other domestic mammals, including cats and dogs. The infection
results from inhalation of contaminated particles in the air, and from
contact with the vaginal mucus, milk, feces, urine or semen of
infected animals. The incubation period is 9-40 days. It is considered
possibly the most infectious disease in the world, as a human being
can be infected by a single bacterium.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_fever
Contents
[hide]

* 1 History
* 2 Manifestations
* 3 Appearance and incidence
* 4 Diagnosis
* 5 Treatment
* 6 Prevention
* 7 Biological warfare
* 8 References

[edit] History
Image A: A normal chest X-ray. Image B: Q fever pneumonia.
Image A: A normal chest X-ray. Image B: Q fever pneumonia.

It was first desc ribed by Edward Holbrook Derrick in abattoir workers
in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. The "Q" stands for "query" and was
applied historically at a time when the causative agent was unknown.

The pathogen of Q fever was discovered in 1937, when Frank Macfarlane
Burnet and Mavis Freeman isolated the bacterium from one of Derrick's
patients.[citation needed]

It was originally identified as a species of Rickettsia. H.R. Cox and
Davis isolated it from ticks in Montana, USA in 1938, and called it
Rickettsia diasporica.[citation needed] R. diasporica was considered
non-pathogenic until laboratory investigators were infected;[citation
needed] it was officially renamed Coxiella burnetii the same year. It
is a zoonotic disease whose most common animal reservoirs are cattle,
sheep and goats. Coxiella burnetii is no longer regarded as closely
related to Rickettsiae.

[edit] Manifestations

Incubation period is usually 2 to 3 weeks. The most common
manifestation is flu-like symptoms with abrupt onset of fever,
malaise, profuse perspiration, severe headache, myalgia (muscle pain),
joint pain, loss of appetite, upper respiratory problems, dry cough,
pleuritic pain, chills, confusion and gastro-intestinal symptoms such
as nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. The fever lasts approximately 7 to
14 days.

During the course, the disease can progress to an atypical pneumonia,
which can result in a life threatening acute respiratory distress
syndrome (ARDS), whereby such symptoms usually occur during the first
4 to 5 days of infection.

Less often the Q fever causes (granulomatous) hepatitis which becomes
symptomatic with malaise, fever, liver enlargement (hepatomegaly),
pain in the right upper quadrant of the abdomen and jaundice
(icterus). Retinal vasculitis is a rare manifestation of Q fever.[2]

The chronic form of Q fever is virtually identical to inflammation of
the inner lining of the heart (endocarditis), which can occur months
or decades following the infection. It is usually deadly if untreated.
However, with appropriate treatment the mortality falls to around 10%.
=============================================================
Another terrorist ???

Mark Oliphant master bomb maker held up as national hero

Marcus Laurence Elwin Oliphant
Marcus Laurence Elwin Oliphant
Born October 8, 1901(1901-10-08)
Kent Town, Adelaide, Australia
Died July 14, 2000 (aged 98)
Canberra, Australia
Residence Australia
UK
U.S.
Nationality Australian

Notable awards Hughes Medal (1943)

Sir Marcus 'Mark' Laurence Elwin Oliphant AC KBE (October 8, 1901 -
July 14, 2000) was an Australian physicist and humanitarian who played
a fundamental role in the first experimental demonstration of nuclear
fusion, and later, in the development of the atomic bomb.

During retirement he was appointed state governor of South Australia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nuclear_tests_at_Maralinga

British nuclear tests at Maralinga
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
Maralinga Atomic Test Site

Map showing nuclear test sites in Australia
Type Nuclear test range
Location [show location on an interactive map] 30°10′S,
131°37′E in
Australia
Operator United Kingdom
Status Inactive
In use 1955 - 1963
Remediation
status Completed in 2000
Testing
Subcritical
tests 700
Nuclear
tests 7

British nuclear tests at Maralinga occurred between 1955 and 1963 at
the Maralinga site, part of the Woomera Prohibited Area, in South
Australia. A total of seven major nuclear tests were performed, with
approximate yields ranging from 1 to 27 kilotons. The site was also
used for hundreds of minor trials, many of which were intended to
investigate the effects of fire or non-nuclear explosions on atomic
weapons.

The site was contaminated with radioactive materials and an initial
cleanup was attempted in 1967. The McClelland Royal Commission into
the tests delivered its report in 1985, and found that significant
radiation hazards still existed at many of the Maralinga test areas.
It recommended another cleanup, which was completed in 2000 at a cost
of $108 million. Debate continued over the safety of the site and the
long-term health effects on the traditional Aboriginal owners of the
land and former personnel.
Ramabriga
2008-05-07 14:21:31 UTC
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This is confirmation of yet another shitskin moslems post cancelled by
the Yakoo Warrior!! - take a look at the email addy to see which
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1208870505155&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up
everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was
published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp,
practice thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all
those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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***@googlegroups.com
***@islamsa.org.za
***@mweb.co.za
***@lantic.co.za
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sanha-***@sanha.org.za
sanha-***@sanha.org.za
***@sanha.org.za
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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


_
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,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \

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Ramabriga
2008-05-06 18:08:54 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up
everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit
all the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn
terrorist activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones,
sell the donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine
year-old , send your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice
thighing with little kids, ............ Practice all those and you
too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

***@muslimmatch.com or ***@muslimmatch.com or
***@googlegroups.com
***@islamsa.org.za
***@mweb.co.za
***@lantic.co.za
sanha-***@sanha.org.za
sanha-***@sanha.org.za
sanha-***@sanha.org.za
***@sanha.org.za
--
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \

Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!

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Aviroce
2008-05-06 03:17:02 UTC
Permalink
Just as Israel inaugurated its misbegotten birth with genocidal
ethnic
cleansing sixty years ago, the evil brat of Zionism is marking its
60th
anniversary with yet another spate of bloodletting.

On Sunday, 27 April, the Israeli "Defense" Forces (a more appropriate
appellation would be the Jewish Wehrmacht) murdered a mother and her
four
children in Beit Hanoun, a northern Gaza suburb.


The mother and her kids reportedly were having breakfast when an
artillery
shell fired from an Israeli Merkava battle-tank hit their home,
killing them
instantly and mutilating their bodies.


The graphic, blood-splattered images of the mutilated children and
their
mother raised no eyebrows among Israeli leaders and the Zionist-
Jewish
public opinion. After all, these Nazi-minded and Nazi-hearted
Zionists
have
been doing this for more than sixty years. And the world seems to be
coming
to terms with these crimes as a fact of life. This is at least how
Israel
views world reactions to its crimes against the peoples of the Middle
East.


Anyone familiar with the Zionist way of thinking would tell you that
whenever a pornographic carnage is committed by the Israeli
occupation
army,
Israeli leaders don't indulge in soul-searching over the barbarian
behavior
they engage in. Instead, they just activate their hasbara machine in
order
to control the resulting public relations damage and help exonerate
Israel
of any wrong doing before the eyes of the world.


Thus, these evil child killers have told us that their victims were
killed
not by Israeli artillery shells, but rather by Palestinian
explosives!
Well,
didn't these wicked liars claim that Muhammed Durra was killed by
Palestinian snipers in order to tarnish Israel's image?


This is of course not the first time the Israeli army murders an
entire
family in order to inflict "shock and awe" on a people as bent on
living and
surviving as Israel is bent on killing and murdering. Israel's
history,
after all, has been an uninterrupted concatenation of massacres and
war
crimes. In fact, one would exaggerate very little by saying that
Israel
itself is a crime against humanity, and for that matter a continuing
crime
against humanity.


The latest carnage in Gaza didn't occur in isolation. The entire Gaza
Strip
has been languishing under a harsh blockade that has much in common
with the
Nazi blockade of the Warsaw Ghetto in Poland in 1943.


This is a truth that many people in Europe and North America can't
bring
themselves to accept, at least openly, because it is not politically
correct
to do so. Well, does the West need to see a full-fledged holocaust in
Palestine in order to cast the holocaust guilt off its shoulders?
Must
Palestinian children be slaughtered every morning and every evening
in
order
to finally bring about the long-awaited recuperation of Europe from
the
holocaust complex?


As a result of barring the estimated 1.5 million Gaza inhabitants
from
accessing food, work, medicine and fuel, the vast bulk of the
population has
been forced into abject poverty and virtual starvation.


Ill people who can't find the needed medicine and required medical
care in
local health facilities, are left to succumb to their illnesses. It
is
believed that more than 200 innocent Gazan patients have so far died
as a
direct result of the callous Nazi-like siege.


This happens as Israeli officials appearing on western TV screens
keep
assuring the mostly nonchalant or morally-apathetic western audiences
that
under no circumstances would Israel allow a "humanitarian crisis" to
develop
in Gaza. Well, what, apart from lies, do we expect from Zionism, a
Godless,
satanic ideology based on murder, theft and mendacity?


What do we expect from a state that sends its crack soldiers to raid
and
terrorize orphanages and boarding schools in Hebron in the dead of
night?


What do we expect from a state that confiscates donated food for
orphaned
children whose parents had been murdered by the Israeli army.a state
that
orders its soldiers to raid inventory warehouses and steal shoes,
clothes,
even underwear, of orphaned children under ten years of age?


What do we expect from a state whose soldiers murder 12-year-old
school
kids, and then verify the kill by emptying 20 more bullets into the
small
victim's body to make sure that the dead or dying little girl or boy
doesn't
pose a threat to the security and safety of the heroic soldier?


What do we expect from a state whose army bulldozers crush peace
activists
to death and then tells the world that " the bulldozer driver acted
in
accordance with outstanding instructions and did nothing wrong."


Obviously, a sate as such is a Nazi state par excellence.


Well, I know that Israel has produced good scientists and built good
hospitals and made impressive achievements in science, technology and
other
fields.
But this doesn't mean much in moral terms. Nazi Germany, too,
produced
many
good scientists, built many good hospitals and made impressive
achievements
in science and technology.


Besides, what is the point of inventing advanced electronic devices
and then
using the technology in murdering and maiming sleeping children and
women
and other innocent civilians?


Indeed, what is the point of building a prosperous state on a
foundation of
oppression, mass murder and ethnic cleansing?


Israel may appear modern, vigorous and democratic to much of the
outside
world. But for us, the Palestinians, Israel is and will always be a
murderer, a thief and a liar.


Israel stole our country away from us, ethnically cleansed our
people,
destroyed our homes, bulldozed our towns and villages, poisoned our
water
wells lest we return, and then expelled the bulk of our people to the
four
corners of the globe.these are the very people Israeli leaders and
spokespersons now shamelessly call "terrorists."


Yes, Israel is militarily and economically powerful; it has a huge
stockpile
of nuclear weapons, and pro-Israeli pressure groups control the
American
government as well as much of the media and show business in the
United
States.


So what?


Evil states, like evil people, do not last forever. And Israel will
be
no
exception.


ElParedon
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1208870505155&pagename=JPo...
If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
...
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2008-05-06 03:44:45 UTC
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How the hell did they miss the rest of this vermin?

"Aviroce" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:cc907f56-97cb-4200-bfca-***@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
Just as Israel inaugurated its misbegotten birth with genocidal
ethnic
cleansing sixty years ago, the evil brat of Zionism is marking its
60th
anniversary with yet another spate of bloodletting.

On Sunday, 27 April, the Israeli "Defense" Forces (a more appropriate
appellation would be the Jewish Wehrmacht) murdered a mother and her
four
children in Beit Hanoun, a northern Gaza suburb.


The mother and her kids reportedly were having breakfast when an
artillery
shell fired from an Israeli Merkava battle-tank hit their home,
killing them
instantly and mutilating their bodies.


The graphic, blood-splattered images of the mutilated children and
their
mother raised no eyebrows among Israeli leaders and the Zionist-
Jewish
public opinion. After all, these Nazi-minded and Nazi-hearted
Zionists
have
been doing this for more than sixty years. And the world seems to be
coming
to terms with these crimes as a fact of life. This is at least how
Israel
views world reactions to its crimes against the peoples of the Middle
East.


Anyone familiar with the Zionist way of thinking would tell you that
whenever a pornographic carnage is committed by the Israeli
occupation
army,
Israeli leaders don't indulge in soul-searching over the barbarian
behavior
they engage in. Instead, they just activate their hasbara machine in
order
to control the resulting public relations damage and help exonerate
Israel
of any wrong doing before the eyes of the world.


Thus, these evil child killers have told us that their victims were
killed
not by Israeli artillery shells, but rather by Palestinian
explosives!
Well,
didn't these wicked liars claim that Muhammed Durra was killed by
Palestinian snipers in order to tarnish Israel's image?


This is of course not the first time the Israeli army murders an
entire
family in order to inflict "shock and awe" on a people as bent on
living and
surviving as Israel is bent on killing and murdering. Israel's
history,
after all, has been an uninterrupted concatenation of massacres and
war
crimes. In fact, one would exaggerate very little by saying that
Israel
itself is a crime against humanity, and for that matter a continuing
crime
against humanity.


The latest carnage in Gaza didn't occur in isolation. The entire Gaza
Strip
has been languishing under a harsh blockade that has much in common
with the
Nazi blockade of the Warsaw Ghetto in Poland in 1943.


This is a truth that many people in Europe and North America can't
bring
themselves to accept, at least openly, because it is not politically
correct
to do so. Well, does the West need to see a full-fledged holocaust in
Palestine in order to cast the holocaust guilt off its shoulders?
Must
Palestinian children be slaughtered every morning and every evening
in
order
to finally bring about the long-awaited recuperation of Europe from
the
holocaust complex?


As a result of barring the estimated 1.5 million Gaza inhabitants
from
accessing food, work, medicine and fuel, the vast bulk of the
population has
been forced into abject poverty and virtual starvation.


Ill people who can't find the needed medicine and required medical
care in
local health facilities, are left to succumb to their illnesses. It
is
believed that more than 200 innocent Gazan patients have so far died
as a
direct result of the callous Nazi-like siege.


This happens as Israeli officials appearing on western TV screens
keep
assuring the mostly nonchalant or morally-apathetic western audiences
that
under no circumstances would Israel allow a "humanitarian crisis" to
develop
in Gaza. Well, what, apart from lies, do we expect from Zionism, a
Godless,
satanic ideology based on murder, theft and mendacity?


What do we expect from a state that sends its crack soldiers to raid
and
terrorize orphanages and boarding schools in Hebron in the dead of
night?


What do we expect from a state that confiscates donated food for
orphaned
children whose parents had been murdered by the Israeli army.a state
that
orders its soldiers to raid inventory warehouses and steal shoes,
clothes,
even underwear, of orphaned children under ten years of age?


What do we expect from a state whose soldiers murder 12-year-old
school
kids, and then verify the kill by emptying 20 more bullets into the
small
victim's body to make sure that the dead or dying little girl or boy
doesn't
pose a threat to the security and safety of the heroic soldier?


What do we expect from a state whose army bulldozers crush peace
activists
to death and then tells the world that " the bulldozer driver acted
in
accordance with outstanding instructions and did nothing wrong."


Obviously, a sate as such is a Nazi state par excellence.


Well, I know that Israel has produced good scientists and built good
hospitals and made impressive achievements in science, technology and
other
fields.
But this doesn't mean much in moral terms. Nazi Germany, too,
produced
many
good scientists, built many good hospitals and made impressive
achievements
in science and technology.


Besides, what is the point of inventing advanced electronic devices
and then
using the technology in murdering and maiming sleeping children and
women
and other innocent civilians?


Indeed, what is the point of building a prosperous state on a
foundation of
oppression, mass murder and ethnic cleansing?


Israel may appear modern, vigorous and democratic to much of the
outside
world. But for us, the Palestinians, Israel is and will always be a
murderer, a thief and a liar.


Israel stole our country away from us, ethnically cleansed our
people,
destroyed our homes, bulldozed our towns and villages, poisoned our
water
wells lest we return, and then expelled the bulk of our people to the
four
corners of the globe.these are the very people Israeli leaders and
spokespersons now shamelessly call "terrorists."


Yes, Israel is militarily and economically powerful; it has a huge
stockpile
of nuclear weapons, and pro-Israeli pressure groups control the
American
government as well as much of the media and show business in the
United
States.


So what?


Evil states, like evil people, do not last forever. And Israel will
be
no
exception.


ElParedon
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1208870505155&pagename=JPo...
If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck
your mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all
the time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the
donkey you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send
your child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with
little kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
...
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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Aviroce
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B. H. Cramer (***@them'oment.bizz) posted the following
information
about the different aspects of Jewish culture. It is an appalling
culture where Jesus is the bastard and wicked sorcerer and it is
permitted to have intercourse with a three year old and it is the
objective of a Jew to kill gentiles and more.

Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud


Where a Jew Should Do Evil
Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a
city
where he is not known and do the evil there.
Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis
Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be
punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.
Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be
killed.


O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages
owed
him for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite
there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an
Israelite...the payment is to be in full."


Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile
("heathen")
it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to
an
old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article
to
a Cuthean..."


Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will
be
no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law
and
God has "exposed their money to Israel."


Jews May Lie to Non-Jews
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a
Gentile.
Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from
birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.


Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the
descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with
carpenters."
Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is
stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that
Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.


Gloats over Christ Dying Young
A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus
died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is
not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men
shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-
three
or thirty-four years old."


Jesus in the Talmud:
Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ
While it is the standard disinformation practice of apologists for
the
Talmud to deny that it contains any scurrilous references to Jesus
Christ, certain Orthodox Jewish organizations are more forthcoming
and
admit that the Talmud not only mentions Jesus but disparages him (as
a
sorcerer and a demented sex freak). These orthodox Jewish
organizations
make this admission perhaps out of the belief that Jewish supremacy
is
so well-established in the modern world that they need not concern
themselves with adverse reactions.
For example, on the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch
group--one of the largest in the world--we find the following
statement,
complete with Talmudic citations:
"The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the
Nazarene':
1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews
astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers
for
the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is
mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness,
and
refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used
procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly
banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
End quote from http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (Lubavitch website)
June
20, 2000.
[Note: we have printed and preserved in our files a hard copy of this
statement from the Lubavitch"Noah's Covenant Website," as it appeared
on
their website at http://www.noahide.com on June 20, 2000, in the
event
that denials are later issued and the statement itself suppressed].
Let us examine further some of these anti-Christ Talmud passages:
Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."
Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu
"the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is
taught
that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before
this
the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he
has
practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an
enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone."
Kallah 51a."The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young
lads
passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of
him
who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard.
Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child
conceived
during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both
a
bastard and a son of a niddah.
"They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your
colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to
the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.
"He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will
put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life).
She
said to him, 'Swear it to me.'
"Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his
heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied,
'When
I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my
husband
kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this
son
was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard and the
son
of a niddah.
"It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His
Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."
In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding
Talmud discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who
"uncovered his head" and was conceived in the filth of menstruation).
The boy's adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of
Christ, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the
hairdresser, in the Talmud).
"The Editio Princeps of the complete Code of Talmudic Law,
Maimonides'
Mishneh Torah -- replete not only with the most offensive precepts
against all Gentiles but also with explicit attacks on Christianity
and
on Jesus (after whose name the author adds piously, 'May the name of
the
wicked perish')... --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish
Religion,
p. 21.
"The Talmud contains a few explicit references to Jesus...These
references are certainly not complimentary...There seems little doubt
that the account of the execution of Jesus on the eve of Passover
does
refer to the Christian Jesus...The passage in which Jesus' punishment
in
hell is described also seems to refer to the Christian Jesus. It is a
piece of anti-Christian polemic dating from the post-70 CE period..."
--Hyam Maccoby, Judaism on Trial, pp. 26-27.
"According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical
court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of
rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his
execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the
talmudic
account the Romans are not even mentioned.
"The more popular accounts--which were nevertheless taken quite
seriously--such as the notorious Toldot Yeshu are even worse, for in
addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very
name 'Jesus' was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable and this
popular tradition still persists...
"The Hebrew form of the name Jesus--Yeshu--was interpreted as an
acronym
for the curse, 'may his name and memory be wiped out,' which is used
as
an extreme form of abuse. In fact, anti-zionist Orthodox Jews (such
as
Neturey Qarta) sometimes refer to Herzl as 'Herzl Jesus' and I have
found in religious zionist writings expressions such as "Nasser
Jesus"
and more recently 'Arafat Jesus." --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish
History,
Jewish Religion, pp. 97- 98, 118.
Talmud Attacks Christians and Christian Books
Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the
Talmud
will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.
Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books")
will have no portion in the world to come.
Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e.
the
New Testament.
Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis
burned
hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23,
1980
(cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud
Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies
within
the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.
Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a
holy
way is given.
Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the
animals in the Garden of Eden.
Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically,
three years "and a day" old).
Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child
is
less than nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little
girl
it is nothing."
Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to
marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also
eligible
to marry a Jewish priest.
Abodah Zarah 17a. ...

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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN  MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
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2008-05-06 10:42:46 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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2008-05-06 10:42:51 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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elea.namatjira
2008-05-05 11:51:38 UTC
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There have been 4,373 coalition deaths -- 4,065 Americans, two
Australians, 176 Britons, 13 Bulgarians, one Czech, seven Danes, two
Dutch, two Estonians, one Fijian, one Hungarian, 33 Italians, one
Kazakh, one Korean, three Latvian, 22 Poles, three Romanians, five
Salvadoran, four Slovaks, 11 Spaniards, two Thai and 18 Ukrainians --
in the war in Iraq as of May 2, 2008, according to a CNN count.
{ Graphical breakdown of casualties }. The list below is the names of
the soldiers, Marines, airmen, sailors and Coast Guardsmen whose
deaths have been reported by their country's governments. The list
also includes seven employees of the U.S. Defense Department. At least
29,911 U.S. troops have been wounded in action, according to the
Pentagon. View casualties in the war in Afghanistan.
Iraq
April 2008

Cpt. Andrew. R. Pearson
32
1st Battalion, 22nd Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
Billings, Montana
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside
bomb in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 30, 2008

Spc. Ronald J. Tucker
21
1st Battalion, 22nd Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
Fountain, Colorado
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside
bomb in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 30, 2008

Staff Sgt. Bryan E. Bolander
26
1st Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Bakersfield, California
Killed when his vehicle struck a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq, on
April 29, 2008

Staff Sgt. Clay A. Craig
22
1st Squadron, 75th Cavalry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Mesquite, Texas
Died of wounds suffered when he received small-arms fire during combat
operations in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 29, 2008

Pfc. Adam L. Marion
26
171st Engineer Company, North Carolina Army National Guard
Mount Airy, North Carolina
One of three soldiers who died of wounds suffered when enemy forces
attacked their forward operating base with indirect fire in Baghdad,
Iraq, on April 28, 2008

Sgt. Marcus C. Mathes
26
94th Brigade Support Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain
Division
Zephyrhills, Florida
One of three soldiers who died of wounds suffered when enemy forces
attacked their forward operating base with indirect fire in Baghdad,
Iraq, on April 28, 2008

Spc. David P. McCormick
26
1st Squadron, 75th Cavalry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Fresno, Texas
Died of wounds suffered when his forward operating base came under
rocket attack in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 28, 2008

Sgt. Mark A. Stone
22
94th Brigade Support Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain
Division
Buchanan Dam, Texas
One of three soldiers who died of wounds suffered when enemy forces
attacked their forward operating base with indirect fire in Baghdad,
Iraq, on April 28, 2008

Pfc. William T. Dix
32
14th Engineer Battalion, 555th Engineer Brigade, I Corps
Culver City, California
Died of injuries suffered in a non-combat related incident at Camp
Buehring, Kuwait, on April 27, 2008. The incident is under
investigation.

Staff Sgt. Shaun J. Whitehead
24
2nd Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Commerce, Georgia
Died, of wounds suffered when he encountered a roadside bomb during a
dismounted patrol in Iskandariya, Iraq, on April 24, 2008

Pfc. John T. Bishop
22
1st Squadron, 32nd Cavalry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Gaylord, Michigan
One of two soldiers who died of injuries suffered in a vehicle
incident in Golden Hills, Iraq, on April 23, 2008

Staff Sgt. Ronald C. Blystone
34
1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
Springfield, Missouri
Died from wounds suffered when he encountered small arms fire during a
dismounted patrol in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 23, 2008

1st Lt. Timothy W. Cunningham
26
1st Squadron, 32nd Cavalry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
College Station, Texas
One of two soldiers who died of injuries suffered in a vehicle
incident in Golden Hills, Iraq, on April 23, 2008

Sgt. Guadalupe Cervantes Ramirez
26
2nd Transportation Company, Echelons Above Brigade Support Battalion,
National Training Center Support Brigade Fort
Irwin, California
Died at Camp Arifjan, Kuwait, of injuries suffered in a vehicle
incident on April 23, 2008

Lance Cpl. Jordan C. Haerter
19
1st Battalion, 9th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Marine
Expeditionary Force
Sag Harbor, New York
One of two Marines killed while conducting combat operations in Anbar
province, Iraq, on April 22, 2008

Pvt. Ronald R. Harrison
25
703rd Brigade Support Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry
Division
Morris Plains, New Jersey
Died of a non-combat related injury at Forward Operating Base Falcon
near Baghdad, Iraq, on April 22, 2008

Cpl. Jonathan T. Yale
21
2nd Battalion, 8th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Marine
Expeditionary Force
Burkeville, Virginia
One of two Marines killed while conducting combat operations in Anbar
province, Iraq, on April 22, 2008

Airman Apprentice Adrian M. Campos
22
Helicopter Sea Combat Support Squadron 22
El Paso, Texas
Found dead in Dubai on April 21, 2008, due to a non-combat related
incident. The incident is under investigation.

Spc. Steven J. Christofferson
20
1st Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Cudahy, Wisconsin
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encoutnered a roadside
bomb in Bayji, Iraq, on April 21, 2008

Sgt. Adam J. Kohlhaas
26
1st Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Perryville, Missouri
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encoutnered a roadside
bomb in Bayji, Iraq, on April 21, 2008

1st Lt. Matthew R. Vandergrift
28
2nd Battalion, 10th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Marine
Expeditionary Force
Littleton, Colorado
Died from wounds he suffered during combat operations in Basra, Iraq,
on April 21, 2008

Petty Officer 1st Class Cherie L. Morton
40
Naval Security Force, Naval Support Activity Bahrain
Bakersfield, California
Died in Galali, Muharraq, Bahrain, on April 20. The cause of death is
under investigation.

Spc. Benjamin K. Brosh
22
2nd Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb
in Paliwoda, Iraq, on April 18, 2008

Spc. Lance O. Eakes
25
1132nd Military Police Company, North Carolina Army National Guard
Apex, North Carolina
Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb
in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 18, 2008

Staff Sgt. Jason L. Brown
29
Company B, 3rd Battalion, 5th Special Forces Group
Magnolia, Texas
Killed by a burst of small-arms fire while attempting to enter a
building during an operation to capture an al Qaeda leader in Sama
village, Iraq, on April 17, 2008

Cpl. Richard J. Nelson
23
2nd Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment, 4th Marine Division, Marine
Forces Reserve
Racine, Wisconsin
One of two Marines killed while conducting combat operations in Anbar
province, Iraq, on April 14, 2008

Lance Cpl. Dean D. Opicka
29
2nd Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment, 4th Marine Division, Marine
Forces Reserve
Waukesha, Wisconsin
One of two Marines killed while conducting combat operations in Anbar
province, Iraq, on April 14, 2008

Spc. William E. Allmon
25
1st Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd
Infantry Division
Ardmore, Oklahoma
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 12, 2008

. Merlin German
22
5th Battalion, 11th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, 1st Marine
Expeditionary Force
Manhattan, New York
Died on April 11, 2008 at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio,
Texas, of wounds he suffered while conducting combat operations in Al
Anbar province, Iraq, on February 22, 2005

Sgt. Jesse A. Ault
28
429th Brigade Support Battalion, Virginia Army National Guard
Dublin, Virginia
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 9, 2008

Tech. Sgt Anthony L. Capra
31
Detachment 63, 688 Armament Systems Squadron
Hanford, California
Died of wounds suffered when he encountered a homemade bomb near
Golden Hills, Iraq, on April 9, 2008

Spc. Jacob J. Fairbanks
22
1st Battalion, 320th Field Artillery Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat
Team, 101st Airborne Division
Saint Paul, Minnesota
Died of injuries in a non-combat related incident in Baghdad, Iraq, on
April 9, 2008

Spc. Arturo Huerta-Cruz
23
10th Brigade Support Battalion, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain
Division
Clearwater, Florida
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Tuz, Iraq, on
April 14, 2008

Spc. Jeremiah C. Hughes
26
1st Battalion, 21st Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team
(Stryker), 25th Infantry Division
Jacksonville, Florida
Died of injuries sustained in a non-combat related incident in Abu
Gharab, Iraq, on April 9, 2008

Sgt. Shaun P. Tousha
30
1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
Hull, Texas
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 9, 2008

Staff Sgt. Jeffery L. Hartley
25
1st Battalion, 10th Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team,
3rd Infantry Division
Hempstead, Texas
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Kharguliah,
Iraq, on April 8, 2008

Spc. Jason C. Kazarick
30
1st Squadron, 2nd Stryker Cavalry Regiment
Oakmont, Pennsylvania
One of two soldiers killed when enemy forces attacked using a rocket-
propelled grenade in Sadr City, Iraq, on April 8, 2008

Sgt. Michael T. Lilly
23
1st Squadron, 2nd Stryker Cavalry Regiment
Boise, Idaho
One of two soldiers killed when enemy forces attacked using a rocket-
propelled grenade in Sadr City, Iraq, on April 8, 2008

Maj. Mark E. Rosenberg
32
3rd Battalion, 29th Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team,
4th Infantry Division
Miami Lakes, Florida
Killed when his wounds encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 8, 2008

Sgt. Timothy M. Smith
25
4th Brigade Special Troops Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th
Mountain Division
South Lake Tahoe, California
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 7, 2008

Sgt. Richard A. Vaughn
22
1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
San Diego, California
Died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked using a rocket-
propelled grenade, homemade bombs and small-arms fire in Baghdad,
Iraq, on April 7, 2008

Capt. Ulises Burgos-Cruz
29
Military Transition Team, 1st Brigade, 1st Infantry Division
Puerto Rico
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside
bomb in Balad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Staff Sgt. Jeremiah E. McNeal
23
237th Engineer Company, 276th Engineer Battalion, 91st Troop Command,
Virginia Army National Guard
Norfolk, Virginia
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 6, 2008

Spc. Matthew T. Morris
23
2nd Squadron, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment
Cedar Park, Texas
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside
bomb in Balad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Pfc. Shane D. Penley
19
2nd Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Sauk Village, Illinois
Died of wounds suffered while on duty at a guard post at Patrol Base
Copper, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Staff Sgt. Emanuel Pickett
34
1132nd Military Police Company, North Carolina Army National Guard
Teachey, North Carolina
Died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked with indirect fire
in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Col. Stephen K. Scott
54
356th Quartermaster Battalion
New Market, Alabama
One of two soldiers killed when insurgents attacked their unit with
indirect fire in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Maj. Stuart A. Wolfer
36
11th Battalion, 104th Division
Coral Springs, Florida
One of two soldiers killed when insurgents attacked their unit with
indirect fire in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Staff Sgt. Travis L. Griffin
28
377th Security Forces Squadron, 377th Mission Support Group, 377th Air
Base Wing
Dover, Delaware
Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb
near Baghdad, Iraq, on April 3, 2008

Afghanistan - The Forgotten War

There have been 793 coalition deaths -- 492 Americans, 5 Australians,
94 Britons, 82 Canadians, 2 Czech, 14 Danes, 16 Dutch, two Estonians,
one Finn, 12 French, 22 Germans, 11 Italians, three Norwegians, three
Poles, two Portuguese, 6 Romanians, one South Korean, 23 Spaniards,
two Swedes -- in the war on terror as of May 2, 2008, according to a
CNN count. Below are the names of the soldiers, Marines, airmen and
sailors whose deaths have been reported by their country's
governments. The troops died in support of the U.S.-led Operation
Enduring Freedom or were part of the NATO-led International Security
Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan. At least 1,937 U.S. personnel
have been wounded in action, according to the Pentagon
April 2008

Sgt. 1st Class David L. McDowell
30
2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment
Ramona, California
Died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked using small-arms
fire in Baston, Afghanistan, on April 29, 2008

Senior Airman Jonathan A. V. Yelner
24
28th Aircraft Maintenance Squadron
Lafayette, California
Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb
near Bagram, Afghanistan, on April 29, 2008

Lance Cpl. Jason Marks
27
4th Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment (Commando)
Yeppoon, Queensland, Australia
Killed during a firefight with Taliban fighters approximately 15.5
miles (25 kilometers) southeast of Tarin Kowt in Oruzgan province,
Afghanistan, on April 28, 2008

Trooper Robert Pearson
22
A Squadron, The Queen's Royal Lancers
Grimsby, England
Killed when his vehicle struck a suspected mine while his unit was
providing security for a resupply convoy returning to Camp Bastion in
Helmand province, Afghanistan, on April 21, 2008

Pfc. Mark Schouwink
22
45th Armored Infantry Battalion, 43rd Mechanized Brigade
The Netherlands
One of two Dutch soldiers killed when their vehicle hit a roadside
bomb seven miles (12 kilometers) northwest of Camp Holland in Uruzgan
province, Afghanistan, on April 18, 2008

1st Lt. Dennis van Uhm
23
45th Armored Infantry Battalion, 43rd Mechanized Brigade
The Netherlands
One of two Dutch soldiers killed when their vehicle hit a roadside
bomb seven miles (12 kilometers) northwest of Camp Holland in Uruzgan
province, Afghanistan, on April 18, 2008

1st Sgt. Luke J. Mercardante
35
Combat Logistics Battalion 24, 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, 2nd
Marine Expeditionary Force
Athens, Georgia
One of two Marines killed during combat operations in Kandahar
province, Afghanistan, on April 15, 2008

Cpl. Kyle W. Wilks
24
Combat Logistics Battalion 24, 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, 2nd
Marine Expeditionary Force
Rogers, Arkansas
One of two Marines killed during combat operations in Kandahar
province, Afghanistan, on April 15, 2008

Senior Aircraftman Graham Livingstone
23
Support Weapons Flight, 3 Squadron, Royal Air Force Regiment
Strathclyde, Scotland
One of two British airmen killed when their vehicle was struck by an
explosion during a patrol at Kandahar Airfield in Kandahar province,
Afghanistan, on April 13, 2008

Senior Aircraftman Gary Thompson
51
504 Squadron, Royal Auxiliary Air Force
Nottingham, England
One of two British airmen killed when their vehicle was struck by an
explosion during a patrol at Kandahar Airfield in Kandahar province,
Afghanistan, on April 13, 2008

Pvt. Terry John Street
24
2nd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry
Hull, Quebec, Canada
Killed when his armored vehicle struck a suspected roadside bomb in
the Panjwayi district in Kandahar province, Afghanistan, on April 4,
2008

Sgt. Nicholas A. Robertson
27
Headquarters Service Company, 3rd Battalion, 3rd Special Forces Group
Old Town, Maine
Died on April 3, 2008, at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in
Landstuhl, Germany, of wounds suffered during combat operations near
the Zahn Khan district in Ghazni province, Afghanistan, on April 2

“Epidemic of Suicides”
Veterans Combat VA in Lawsuit Seeking Adequate and Timely Healthcare –
Closing Arguments

Civilian Casulties - Iraq

Just Foreign Policy Issues
Over a million {*1,205,025} Iraqis are estimated to have been killed
as a result of the U.S.-led invasion and occupation. Learn More and
Take Action»
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John Hopkins School of Public Health { October 11, 2006 report } puts
the count at 650,000, with a range from 400,000 to 900,000.

Exact Count of Civilian Casulties may never be known, as is the case
in every conflict, especially an Invasion by another Country. For it
is the Innocent Civilians and those Defending their Countries {of
which All would be counted if this land were ever invaded} who suffer
the most, during and long after!

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All the Deaths, Maimings and Destruction are the Blood on All Our
Hands, No One can escape the Guilt!

March 2008, Febuary 2008, January 2008, December 2007, November 2007,
October 2007, September 2007, August 2007, July 2007, June 2007, May
2007, April 2007, March 2007, Feb. 2007, Jan. 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004,
2003

You can view other Honor Rolls of the Fallen I have posted on my site
{links above}, or from the CNN link at top and the other sources that
you might use or know about.

As Of May 3 2008, There Are 85 Pages w/5 'Silent Honor Rolls' Each,
Number Of Casulties Varies With Each 'Silent Honor Roll'; Many now
have numbers in the teens and twenties, click on graphic.

A Nations Security Does Not Mean A Nation Sets An Example Of Creating
More Hatreds And Enemies By 'Wars Of Choice'
, Nor By Installing And Supporting Dictators, It Leads By The Example
Of Peace And Prevention, Especially As A Democracy, Gaining Friends
And Supporters, And Defends With Force Only When All Other Options Are
Exhausted

97 percent of U.S. deaths in Iraq have occurred after George W. Bush
declared an end to "major combat."
”Mission Accomplished!”

We have lost over 900 dead Americans since the surge. Now if you want
to dismiss that as "success" that would be your interpretation.
Chuck Hagel

If they were sent to fight, they are too few. If they were sent to
die, they are too many!

Is 'Funding' Really For Troops?

What Happened To Funding and Oversite For Military/Veteran Care In
Previous Congresses?

Those who take some sort of relief in the "We are fighting them over
there so we won't be fighting them here!", Better Rethink their
Future, or rather their Childrens Future!!

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to
explain to us what the exit strategy is," - George W. Bush, Texas
Gov., 1999
" What does it matter to the dead, the orphan, and the homeless
whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of
totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?"
- Mohandas K. Gandhi

The Failed Policies will Haunt Us and the World for Decades!!

http://imagineaworldof.blogspot.com/2008/05/honoring-fallen-us-milita...
t-bone
2008-05-05 11:54:56 UTC
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Come to me. I'll give you a treat that you will savor for the rest of your
life!

"elea.namatjira" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:10f0a144-cb95-40c1-9cb9-***@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
There have been 4,373 coalition deaths -- 4,065 Americans, two
Australians, 176 Britons, 13 Bulgarians, one Czech, seven Danes, two
Dutch, two Estonians, one Fijian, one Hungarian, 33 Italians, one
Kazakh, one Korean, three Latvian, 22 Poles, three Romanians, five
Salvadoran, four Slovaks, 11 Spaniards, two Thai and 18 Ukrainians --
in the war in Iraq as of May 2, 2008, according to a CNN count.
{ Graphical breakdown of casualties }. The list below is the names of
the soldiers, Marines, airmen, sailors and Coast Guardsmen whose
deaths have been reported by their country's governments. The list
also includes seven employees of the U.S. Defense Department. At least
29,911 U.S. troops have been wounded in action, according to the
Pentagon. View casualties in the war in Afghanistan.
Iraq
April 2008

Cpt. Andrew. R. Pearson
32
1st Battalion, 22nd Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
Billings, Montana
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside
bomb in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 30, 2008

Spc. Ronald J. Tucker
21
1st Battalion, 22nd Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
Fountain, Colorado
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside
bomb in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 30, 2008

Staff Sgt. Bryan E. Bolander
26
1st Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Bakersfield, California
Killed when his vehicle struck a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq, on
April 29, 2008

Staff Sgt. Clay A. Craig
22
1st Squadron, 75th Cavalry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Mesquite, Texas
Died of wounds suffered when he received small-arms fire during combat
operations in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 29, 2008

Pfc. Adam L. Marion
26
171st Engineer Company, North Carolina Army National Guard
Mount Airy, North Carolina
One of three soldiers who died of wounds suffered when enemy forces
attacked their forward operating base with indirect fire in Baghdad,
Iraq, on April 28, 2008

Sgt. Marcus C. Mathes
26
94th Brigade Support Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain
Division
Zephyrhills, Florida
One of three soldiers who died of wounds suffered when enemy forces
attacked their forward operating base with indirect fire in Baghdad,
Iraq, on April 28, 2008

Spc. David P. McCormick
26
1st Squadron, 75th Cavalry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Fresno, Texas
Died of wounds suffered when his forward operating base came under
rocket attack in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 28, 2008

Sgt. Mark A. Stone
22
94th Brigade Support Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain
Division
Buchanan Dam, Texas
One of three soldiers who died of wounds suffered when enemy forces
attacked their forward operating base with indirect fire in Baghdad,
Iraq, on April 28, 2008

Pfc. William T. Dix
32
14th Engineer Battalion, 555th Engineer Brigade, I Corps
Culver City, California
Died of injuries suffered in a non-combat related incident at Camp
Buehring, Kuwait, on April 27, 2008. The incident is under
investigation.

Staff Sgt. Shaun J. Whitehead
24
2nd Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Commerce, Georgia
Died, of wounds suffered when he encountered a roadside bomb during a
dismounted patrol in Iskandariya, Iraq, on April 24, 2008

Pfc. John T. Bishop
22
1st Squadron, 32nd Cavalry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Gaylord, Michigan
One of two soldiers who died of injuries suffered in a vehicle
incident in Golden Hills, Iraq, on April 23, 2008

Staff Sgt. Ronald C. Blystone
34
1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
Springfield, Missouri
Died from wounds suffered when he encountered small arms fire during a
dismounted patrol in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 23, 2008

1st Lt. Timothy W. Cunningham
26
1st Squadron, 32nd Cavalry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
College Station, Texas
One of two soldiers who died of injuries suffered in a vehicle
incident in Golden Hills, Iraq, on April 23, 2008

Sgt. Guadalupe Cervantes Ramirez
26
2nd Transportation Company, Echelons Above Brigade Support Battalion,
National Training Center Support Brigade Fort
Irwin, California
Died at Camp Arifjan, Kuwait, of injuries suffered in a vehicle
incident on April 23, 2008

Lance Cpl. Jordan C. Haerter
19
1st Battalion, 9th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Marine
Expeditionary Force
Sag Harbor, New York
One of two Marines killed while conducting combat operations in Anbar
province, Iraq, on April 22, 2008

Pvt. Ronald R. Harrison
25
703rd Brigade Support Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry
Division
Morris Plains, New Jersey
Died of a non-combat related injury at Forward Operating Base Falcon
near Baghdad, Iraq, on April 22, 2008

Cpl. Jonathan T. Yale
21
2nd Battalion, 8th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Marine
Expeditionary Force
Burkeville, Virginia
One of two Marines killed while conducting combat operations in Anbar
province, Iraq, on April 22, 2008

Airman Apprentice Adrian M. Campos
22
Helicopter Sea Combat Support Squadron 22
El Paso, Texas
Found dead in Dubai on April 21, 2008, due to a non-combat related
incident. The incident is under investigation.

Spc. Steven J. Christofferson
20
1st Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Cudahy, Wisconsin
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encoutnered a roadside
bomb in Bayji, Iraq, on April 21, 2008

Sgt. Adam J. Kohlhaas
26
1st Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Perryville, Missouri
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encoutnered a roadside
bomb in Bayji, Iraq, on April 21, 2008

1st Lt. Matthew R. Vandergrift
28
2nd Battalion, 10th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, 2nd Marine
Expeditionary Force
Littleton, Colorado
Died from wounds he suffered during combat operations in Basra, Iraq,
on April 21, 2008

Petty Officer 1st Class Cherie L. Morton
40
Naval Security Force, Naval Support Activity Bahrain
Bakersfield, California
Died in Galali, Muharraq, Bahrain, on April 20. The cause of death is
under investigation.

Spc. Benjamin K. Brosh
22
2nd Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb
in Paliwoda, Iraq, on April 18, 2008

Spc. Lance O. Eakes
25
1132nd Military Police Company, North Carolina Army National Guard
Apex, North Carolina
Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb
in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 18, 2008

Staff Sgt. Jason L. Brown
29
Company B, 3rd Battalion, 5th Special Forces Group
Magnolia, Texas
Killed by a burst of small-arms fire while attempting to enter a
building during an operation to capture an al Qaeda leader in Sama
village, Iraq, on April 17, 2008

Cpl. Richard J. Nelson
23
2nd Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment, 4th Marine Division, Marine
Forces Reserve
Racine, Wisconsin
One of two Marines killed while conducting combat operations in Anbar
province, Iraq, on April 14, 2008

Lance Cpl. Dean D. Opicka
29
2nd Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment, 4th Marine Division, Marine
Forces Reserve
Waukesha, Wisconsin
One of two Marines killed while conducting combat operations in Anbar
province, Iraq, on April 14, 2008

Spc. William E. Allmon
25
1st Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd
Infantry Division
Ardmore, Oklahoma
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 12, 2008

. Merlin German
22
5th Battalion, 11th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, 1st Marine
Expeditionary Force
Manhattan, New York
Died on April 11, 2008 at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio,
Texas, of wounds he suffered while conducting combat operations in Al
Anbar province, Iraq, on February 22, 2005

Sgt. Jesse A. Ault
28
429th Brigade Support Battalion, Virginia Army National Guard
Dublin, Virginia
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 9, 2008

Tech. Sgt Anthony L. Capra
31
Detachment 63, 688 Armament Systems Squadron
Hanford, California
Died of wounds suffered when he encountered a homemade bomb near
Golden Hills, Iraq, on April 9, 2008

Spc. Jacob J. Fairbanks
22
1st Battalion, 320th Field Artillery Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat
Team, 101st Airborne Division
Saint Paul, Minnesota
Died of injuries in a non-combat related incident in Baghdad, Iraq, on
April 9, 2008

Spc. Arturo Huerta-Cruz
23
10th Brigade Support Battalion, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain
Division
Clearwater, Florida
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Tuz, Iraq, on
April 14, 2008

Spc. Jeremiah C. Hughes
26
1st Battalion, 21st Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team
(Stryker), 25th Infantry Division
Jacksonville, Florida
Died of injuries sustained in a non-combat related incident in Abu
Gharab, Iraq, on April 9, 2008

Sgt. Shaun P. Tousha
30
1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
Hull, Texas
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 9, 2008

Staff Sgt. Jeffery L. Hartley
25
1st Battalion, 10th Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team,
3rd Infantry Division
Hempstead, Texas
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Kharguliah,
Iraq, on April 8, 2008

Spc. Jason C. Kazarick
30
1st Squadron, 2nd Stryker Cavalry Regiment
Oakmont, Pennsylvania
One of two soldiers killed when enemy forces attacked using a rocket-
propelled grenade in Sadr City, Iraq, on April 8, 2008

Sgt. Michael T. Lilly
23
1st Squadron, 2nd Stryker Cavalry Regiment
Boise, Idaho
One of two soldiers killed when enemy forces attacked using a rocket-
propelled grenade in Sadr City, Iraq, on April 8, 2008

Maj. Mark E. Rosenberg
32
3rd Battalion, 29th Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team,
4th Infantry Division
Miami Lakes, Florida
Killed when his wounds encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 8, 2008

Sgt. Timothy M. Smith
25
4th Brigade Special Troops Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th
Mountain Division
South Lake Tahoe, California
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 7, 2008

Sgt. Richard A. Vaughn
22
1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th
Infantry Division
San Diego, California
Died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked using a rocket-
propelled grenade, homemade bombs and small-arms fire in Baghdad,
Iraq, on April 7, 2008

Capt. Ulises Burgos-Cruz
29
Military Transition Team, 1st Brigade, 1st Infantry Division
Puerto Rico
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside
bomb in Balad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Staff Sgt. Jeremiah E. McNeal
23
237th Engineer Company, 276th Engineer Battalion, 91st Troop Command,
Virginia Army National Guard
Norfolk, Virginia
Killed when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq,
on April 6, 2008

Spc. Matthew T. Morris
23
2nd Squadron, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment
Cedar Park, Texas
One of two soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside
bomb in Balad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Pfc. Shane D. Penley
19
2nd Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st
Airborne Division
Sauk Village, Illinois
Died of wounds suffered while on duty at a guard post at Patrol Base
Copper, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Staff Sgt. Emanuel Pickett
34
1132nd Military Police Company, North Carolina Army National Guard
Teachey, North Carolina
Died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked with indirect fire
in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Col. Stephen K. Scott
54
356th Quartermaster Battalion
New Market, Alabama
One of two soldiers killed when insurgents attacked their unit with
indirect fire in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Maj. Stuart A. Wolfer
36
11th Battalion, 104th Division
Coral Springs, Florida
One of two soldiers killed when insurgents attacked their unit with
indirect fire in Baghdad, Iraq, on April 6, 2008

Staff Sgt. Travis L. Griffin
28
377th Security Forces Squadron, 377th Mission Support Group, 377th Air
Base Wing
Dover, Delaware
Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb
near Baghdad, Iraq, on April 3, 2008

Afghanistan - The Forgotten War

There have been 793 coalition deaths -- 492 Americans, 5 Australians,
94 Britons, 82 Canadians, 2 Czech, 14 Danes, 16 Dutch, two Estonians,
one Finn, 12 French, 22 Germans, 11 Italians, three Norwegians, three
Poles, two Portuguese, 6 Romanians, one South Korean, 23 Spaniards,
two Swedes -- in the war on terror as of May 2, 2008, according to a
CNN count. Below are the names of the soldiers, Marines, airmen and
sailors whose deaths have been reported by their country's
governments. The troops died in support of the U.S.-led Operation
Enduring Freedom or were part of the NATO-led International Security
Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan. At least 1,937 U.S. personnel
have been wounded in action, according to the Pentagon
April 2008

Sgt. 1st Class David L. McDowell
30
2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment
Ramona, California
Died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked using small-arms
fire in Baston, Afghanistan, on April 29, 2008

Senior Airman Jonathan A. V. Yelner
24
28th Aircraft Maintenance Squadron
Lafayette, California
Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb
near Bagram, Afghanistan, on April 29, 2008

Lance Cpl. Jason Marks
27
4th Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment (Commando)
Yeppoon, Queensland, Australia
Killed during a firefight with Taliban fighters approximately 15.5
miles (25 kilometers) southeast of Tarin Kowt in Oruzgan province,
Afghanistan, on April 28, 2008

Trooper Robert Pearson
22
A Squadron, The Queen's Royal Lancers
Grimsby, England
Killed when his vehicle struck a suspected mine while his unit was
providing security for a resupply convoy returning to Camp Bastion in
Helmand province, Afghanistan, on April 21, 2008

Pfc. Mark Schouwink
22
45th Armored Infantry Battalion, 43rd Mechanized Brigade
The Netherlands
One of two Dutch soldiers killed when their vehicle hit a roadside
bomb seven miles (12 kilometers) northwest of Camp Holland in Uruzgan
province, Afghanistan, on April 18, 2008

1st Lt. Dennis van Uhm
23
45th Armored Infantry Battalion, 43rd Mechanized Brigade
The Netherlands
One of two Dutch soldiers killed when their vehicle hit a roadside
bomb seven miles (12 kilometers) northwest of Camp Holland in Uruzgan
province, Afghanistan, on April 18, 2008

1st Sgt. Luke J. Mercardante
35
Combat Logistics Battalion 24, 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, 2nd
Marine Expeditionary Force
Athens, Georgia
One of two Marines killed during combat operations in Kandahar
province, Afghanistan, on April 15, 2008

Cpl. Kyle W. Wilks
24
Combat Logistics Battalion 24, 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, 2nd
Marine Expeditionary Force
Rogers, Arkansas
One of two Marines killed during combat operations in Kandahar
province, Afghanistan, on April 15, 2008

Senior Aircraftman Graham Livingstone
23
Support Weapons Flight, 3 Squadron, Royal Air Force Regiment
Strathclyde, Scotland
One of two British airmen killed when their vehicle was struck by an
explosion during a patrol at Kandahar Airfield in Kandahar province,
Afghanistan, on April 13, 2008

Senior Aircraftman Gary Thompson
51
504 Squadron, Royal Auxiliary Air Force
Nottingham, England
One of two British airmen killed when their vehicle was struck by an
explosion during a patrol at Kandahar Airfield in Kandahar province,
Afghanistan, on April 13, 2008

Pvt. Terry John Street
24
2nd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry
Hull, Quebec, Canada
Killed when his armored vehicle struck a suspected roadside bomb in
the Panjwayi district in Kandahar province, Afghanistan, on April 4,
2008

Sgt. Nicholas A. Robertson
27
Headquarters Service Company, 3rd Battalion, 3rd Special Forces Group
Old Town, Maine
Died on April 3, 2008, at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in
Landstuhl, Germany, of wounds suffered during combat operations near
the Zahn Khan district in Ghazni province, Afghanistan, on April 2

“Epidemic of Suicides”
Veterans Combat VA in Lawsuit Seeking Adequate and Timely Healthcare –
Closing Arguments

Civilian Casulties - Iraq

Just Foreign Policy Issues
Over a million {*1,205,025} Iraqis are estimated to have been killed
as a result of the U.S.-led invasion and occupation. Learn More and
Take Action»
*Estimate, click for explaination .

To

John Hopkins School of Public Health { October 11, 2006 report } puts
the count at 650,000, with a range from 400,000 to 900,000.

Exact Count of Civilian Casulties may never be known, as is the case
in every conflict, especially an Invasion by another Country. For it
is the Innocent Civilians and those Defending their Countries {of
which All would be counted if this land were ever invaded} who suffer
the most, during and long after!

Iraq Refugees UNHCR: UNHCR Global Appeal 2008-2009 - Iraq Situation
Filetype: PDF (116k)

All the Deaths, Maimings and Destruction are the Blood on All Our
Hands, No One can escape the Guilt!

March 2008, Febuary 2008, January 2008, December 2007, November 2007,
October 2007, September 2007, August 2007, July 2007, June 2007, May
2007, April 2007, March 2007, Feb. 2007, Jan. 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004,
2003

You can view other Honor Rolls of the Fallen I have posted on my site
{links above}, or from the CNN link at top and the other sources that
you might use or know about.

As Of May 3 2008, There Are 85 Pages w/5 'Silent Honor Rolls' Each,
Number Of Casulties Varies With Each 'Silent Honor Roll'; Many now
have numbers in the teens and twenties, click on graphic.

A Nations Security Does Not Mean A Nation Sets An Example Of Creating
More Hatreds And Enemies By 'Wars Of Choice'
, Nor By Installing And Supporting Dictators, It Leads By The Example
Of Peace And Prevention, Especially As A Democracy, Gaining Friends
And Supporters, And Defends With Force Only When All Other Options Are
Exhausted

97 percent of U.S. deaths in Iraq have occurred after George W. Bush
declared an end to "major combat."
”Mission Accomplished!”

We have lost over 900 dead Americans since the surge. Now if you want
to dismiss that as "success" that would be your interpretation.
Chuck Hagel

If they were sent to fight, they are too few. If they were sent to
die, they are too many!

Is 'Funding' Really For Troops?

What Happened To Funding and Oversite For Military/Veteran Care In
Previous Congresses?

Those who take some sort of relief in the "We are fighting them over
there so we won't be fighting them here!", Better Rethink their
Future, or rather their Childrens Future!!

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to
explain to us what the exit strategy is," - George W. Bush, Texas
Gov., 1999
" What does it matter to the dead, the orphan, and the homeless
whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of
totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?"
- Mohandas K. Gandhi

The Failed Policies will Haunt Us and the World for Decades!!

http://imagineaworldof.blogspot.com/2008/05/honoring-fallen-us-milita...
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2008-05-07 08:49:34 UTC
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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‹(•¿•)› Shoot shitskin muhammadans in the face
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If history works out in the end, the high price paid in blood and
suffering can at least be justified as having produced some good. But
what happens when it doesn't?
Clearly, radical Islamism and the region's current political troubles
have parallels with the European history of Christianity and Judaism.
Yet often the nearest equivalents date not from a few decades back but
rather from the 1500s and 1600s. That calendar gap shows why the
region's task is so monumental and lengthy.
In the 1500s and 1600s, Europe and its two main religions struggled
with the impact of modernization, rationalism and scientific thinking;
the challenge of new ideas; and revitalized interest in ancient pagan
Greece and Rome. Despite much bloodshed and repression, a way was
found to manage these contradictions.
Islam and the Arabic-speaking world, not to mention Iran, have still
not done so on a large scale. Before there can be democracy, rapid
development, social progress, equal rights for women and other such
changes, this job has to be done. And the work has barely begun.
How did the West move from a medieval world view into the Renaissance
and Enlightenment, and then on into the modern age? That's a complex
- the confidence that increasing knowledge, even if seemingly
contradicting religious dogma, was a way to understand the deity's
true plan for the world. The church sometimes acted against science or
technology, but not very often;
- accepting pluralism of belief, with Protestantism playing a key role
in establishing a range of alternative interpretations;
- incorporating a pragmatic view in which success was the ultimate
test, and practice trumped ideology;
- adopting reason as the ultimate tool for living in this world;
- a growing separation between religion and state, and room for
secularism in the public sphere.
WHAT DOES this all have to do with the contemporary Middle East? Quite
a lot. Not only do regional Muslim-majority states not accept these
principles but Islamists, with real success, are trying to turn back
Islamists and even mainstream Muslim clergy know how the story turned
out in the West, bringing about a vast decline of religion.
Thus Saudi cleric Muhammad al-Munajid, and many others, sound like
Spanish Inquisition zealots determined to stamp out anything new,
different, original, or individual.
Another parallel with Western history is the use of the Jew as the
demon of modernization, conspiring to subvert traditional society and
change as a way of gaining power.
Those who think the problem stems from a need to make Western policy
more palatable, showing enough empathy or appeasement, have no idea of
the historical processes in play. Consider an interview by Munajid on
Al-Majd television on March 30.
Focusing on the threat within Islam, Munajid warns (translation by
MEMRI) that advocates of change are heretics engaged in "a very
dangerous conspiracy." Why? Because rather than depending on clerics,
they claim the right to interpret Islam, are reopening the gates of
ijtihad - closed among Muslims for almost 1,000 years - and applying
reason to religious doctrine. "This is the prerogative of religious
scholars, not of ignorant people... fools or heretics."
Of course, Islamists as well as liberal reformers threaten the
mainstream (conservative) clerics' monopoly over Islam. Many Islamists
are not qualified theologians.
But moderates are more dangerous, in the mainstream view, since they
may loosen religion's hold altogether. Thus, mainstream clerics are
more sympathetic to radical Islamists - a key factor in the reformers'
weakness and the Islamists' strength. To paraphrase an old Cold War
slogan, they say: "Better green than dead."
Islamists and mainstream clerics carry this idea even into Europe
itself, trying either to keep the Enlightenment out of their own
communities, or even roll back European history. Sometimes they are
helped by befuddled "native" elites who have lost confidence in their
own civilization.
IN CONTRAST, among Jews and Christians, despite reactionary
tendencies, new interpretations were permitted to keep up with the
times. This came gradually to be considered the best way for these
faiths to survive and flourish. Many of their reformers were
themselves highly qualified clerics.
Early Protestants were burned at the stake; others won their rights
only in combat. But Europe changed.
Reformers could call for support on nationalism (Czechs and Dutch
revolting against foreign rulers); on aristocratic rulers seeking
their own interests (Henry the Eighth's divorce, nobles seeking to
loot monasteries' wealth); and on peasants' class resentment. These
factors play little or no such role in the Middle East today. On the
contrary, instead of a way to win more freedom or power, reform is
seen as a destabilizing tool used against Islam by foreign powers and
culture.
Moreover, Munajid and others know something past Europeans didn't: how
far secularism can go. As a result, Muslims are extraordinarily
insecure. Munajid warns that reformers "want to open up everything for
debate," so that "anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he
wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. You like
Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem...."
Today, new interpretations; tomorrow, rampant alcoholism, short
skirts, empty houses of worship, and punk rock. It begins with freedom
of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with
freedom of belief.
In England, even when William Shakespeare was young, British
universities highlighted teaching about ancient pagan cultures. The
first modernist biography of Christianity's founder was published by
1830. Their equivalents are impossible in the Arab world in 2008.
Most clerics and their supporters simply don't believe they can win a
fair fight in the battle of ideas. Therefore, only repression will do.
Conflict is far "safer" than peace.
This is the real, underlying critique of the West and Israel: that
these places are bad role models, against whom windows and doors must
be barred. They must be made to seem so horrible as to close the eyes
and ears of the faithful to the temptations they offer. An iron
curtain must be lowered, behind which the isolated enthusiastically
embrace their isolation.
One sees this process at work even in "liberated" Iraq and
Afghanistan. The radicals want to roll back the West and destroy
Israel, which, they argue, wants to subordinate the Middle East
politically and transform it culturally. Most of the relative
moderates - regimes and mainstream clerics - want, at a minimum, to
hold Israel at bay and avoid a formal peace with it.
Remember, Sayyid Qutb of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood was driven to
extremism by his horror at life in 1950s' small-town Kansas. What
effect must 21st-century Western life, with its far greater excesses,
have?
Today the advocates of "medievalism" in the Middle East have mass
communications, modern organizational techniques - and, soon, even
nuclear weapons.
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist
activities at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey
you fucked to a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your
child off to an indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little
kids, ............ Practice all those and you too could become a
prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!


Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!

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sanha-***@sanha.org.za
***@sanha.org.za
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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


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