2005-07-26 20:37:31 UTC
several times you have posted responses that sort of surprised me,
coming from you. In a nutshell, you say that islam is no longer what it
was, that it is now corrupt, an dthat it was once good because people
You couldn't be further away from the truth. I am surprised that you, a
former muslim and now a practitioner of Bahaism would say something
like this. First of all, the fact tthat you converted out of Islam,
like I did, means that you obviously saw things wrong with it that did
not appeal to you and that you searched for something better (anything
is better in fact).
You assume that at some point, islam was something good because as you
put it, your coutnrymen are intelligent and they would not make a
choice if that choice didn't make sense. Once again, you are far from
the actual fact.
If you look at the history of the way islam was spread in Iran (then
persia), you will see that there were three types of conversions:
1) Conversions by the sword an dby force, that started from Qom in the
7th cnetury, all the way to conversion by force of northern Yazdi
villages in the 19th century
2) Conversions of opportunism such as Saman Khoda, founder of the
Samanid dynasty who converted to thank his arab patron and governor of
Khorassan for helping him fight another fellow Zoroastrian persian and
take over his possessions and villages, or cases such as Mazyar Karen
who "converted" so to speak because he was dispossed of his lands by
Shahryar Bavand and unless he received aid from the Caliph in term so
ftroops and money, he would have been a homeless bum, like Pacifist.
Then there were the Buyid brothers hwose father converted to Islam in
order to secure a favorable position in the army and with the Caliph.
There were the "conversion" of traitors like a Sassanian elite unite
guard of Asavaran led by Syah, who didn't even know about islam or
koran and yet joined the arabs, demanded to be paid 2,500 Derham
(higher than arab warriors!), and be given the land of those enemies
There was the "conversion" of Marzban Farrokhan who joined the arabs to
get thelands of the familly and nobles that opposed his accession to
3) conversions for reasons of faith, being in the tiniest minority.
If islam had truly inspired the majoirty of Persians, it would not have
taken 3-4 centuries for the population of Persia to pass the 50%
mohammedan bar. Droves of Zoroastrians would have answered Salman Pars'
call to beocme mohammedan, which they did not, just like the millions
of soldiers, civilians, farmers etc...who accoridng to historical
records, opted to pay poll tax instead of converting.
Now if you did just a tiny bit of research instead of relying on the
goodwill of your fellow countrymen who are composed of a great numner
of opportunists and asshole followers and motherwhoring douche bags
that jump on any band wagon to serve their own interests and personal
ambitions, you would see that Islam was IMPOSED by force of arms on
Now this decadence of islam that you claim took place...well look at
the koran and Hadiths. These are NOTHING NEW. They have been in palce
for at least 1,000 years and Islamic sharia has been imposed with
brutality since then, only you don't know about it. You are assuming
that at one point Islam made sense and now, it's been corrupted.
CAN YOU PROVE THIS BY ANY MEANS AT ALL?
I doubt you can because you see aziz, islam's WORD has been the same
then as now so to make such an assumption would require proof that the
texts and scriptures were wonderful and dandy at one point and someone
came and corrupted them or misinterpreted them. That is not the case.
These texts were not altered and thus, you are totally wrong in
assuming that there ever was anything in islam but the pile of shit you
see thse scum mohammedan sons of whores spew before the media each day.
So please, please, stop wtih the politically correct stuff will you? We
don't need to blow smoke up the ass of these motherwhoring mohammedans,
let's say it as it REALLY IS. I am tired of people trying to appease
and downplay what islam really is: a hatefilled, prejudiced and brutal
cult of rape, murder and theft.